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Order Only: Goblins
Dec. 31st, 2013 12:13 amRight, then, realised I hadn't updated everyone on where we stand with the goblins.
Mum had a cursed dagger that she inherited a few years ago, and I went to present it to the goblins at Gringott's to ask them to find the owner and give it back. (For those of you who don't remember, goblin sense of ownership's different than ours. To them, the person who made the thing owns it, and 'buying' it from them doesn't transfer the ownership, it's only renting it for the life of the buyer. So, by inheriting the dagger, we were actually stealing it from the goblins, in their view.)
Griphook, the goblin we've been talking to most of the time -- he's not one of the Clan Elders, that much I know, but I don't know exactly what his status is, except that the Elders sent us to him when we tried to talk to them -- was very surprised when I brought it, but surprised in the good sort of way. We had a very nice talk about many things, including goblin grievances with wizardkind, the main ones being the Code of Wand Use and the disagreement about how 'ownership' works.
I told him I couldn't speak for everyone, but as far as I was concerned, "if I were ever in charge" I'd be happy to change the Wand Ban but changes in the definition of 'ownership' would be a much harder thing to bring about. (We haven't yet said outright that we're trying to overthrow the Lord Protector, or even that we're a "we", but Griphook's no idiot and our conversations have been full of careful hypotheticals on both ends.) He was listening, at least.
The one good thing is that I 'happened' to mention that it would suit my purposes if access to Strangeweale's vault was blocked after he died. We went back and forth on that one a bit, with Griphook arguing that if I wasn't prepared to say that goblin rules of inheritance applied to all goblin-made items, I couldn't ask them to not use human rules of inheritance for things humans put in their vault, but eventually we agreed that the presentation of the dagger was enough to trade for the Gringotts goblins blocking any attempts to open the vault for as long as possible, just this once. He said he can't guarantee forever, but he can definitely make sure it's a while.
So, more goblin artefacts to deliver as presents would help there, as well as wands or wand-lore -- if Melli is willing to teach them, that might be something we could trade for very high price. And, of course, once we overthrow His Noselessness, somebody has to make sure to put "removing the Wand Ban" on the priority list.
Mum had a cursed dagger that she inherited a few years ago, and I went to present it to the goblins at Gringott's to ask them to find the owner and give it back. (For those of you who don't remember, goblin sense of ownership's different than ours. To them, the person who made the thing owns it, and 'buying' it from them doesn't transfer the ownership, it's only renting it for the life of the buyer. So, by inheriting the dagger, we were actually stealing it from the goblins, in their view.)
Griphook, the goblin we've been talking to most of the time -- he's not one of the Clan Elders, that much I know, but I don't know exactly what his status is, except that the Elders sent us to him when we tried to talk to them -- was very surprised when I brought it, but surprised in the good sort of way. We had a very nice talk about many things, including goblin grievances with wizardkind, the main ones being the Code of Wand Use and the disagreement about how 'ownership' works.
I told him I couldn't speak for everyone, but as far as I was concerned, "if I were ever in charge" I'd be happy to change the Wand Ban but changes in the definition of 'ownership' would be a much harder thing to bring about. (We haven't yet said outright that we're trying to overthrow the Lord Protector, or even that we're a "we", but Griphook's no idiot and our conversations have been full of careful hypotheticals on both ends.) He was listening, at least.
The one good thing is that I 'happened' to mention that it would suit my purposes if access to Strangeweale's vault was blocked after he died. We went back and forth on that one a bit, with Griphook arguing that if I wasn't prepared to say that goblin rules of inheritance applied to all goblin-made items, I couldn't ask them to not use human rules of inheritance for things humans put in their vault, but eventually we agreed that the presentation of the dagger was enough to trade for the Gringotts goblins blocking any attempts to open the vault for as long as possible, just this once. He said he can't guarantee forever, but he can definitely make sure it's a while.
So, more goblin artefacts to deliver as presents would help there, as well as wands or wand-lore -- if Melli is willing to teach them, that might be something we could trade for very high price. And, of course, once we overthrow His Noselessness, somebody has to make sure to put "removing the Wand Ban" on the priority list.